This has been bothering me for a while. But how are windmill criticals calculated anyway? We know that if you crit on a wm, you crit on everything that gets hit by that windmill. In other words all or nothing. But why isn't that calculated individually? To save resources? Or is it calculated by taking an individual mob's protection into consideration? If so then which mob (providing you're hitting different mobs with different amounts of protection)? A randomly selected one? 

It says on the wiki that for certain skills, such as the advanced magics (IS/FB) and splash damage (smash/mag) the crit is calculated by seeing if any mob that is hit gets criticaled. If one of the targets is affected by crit, then everything will be. Is this the same for windmill then? 

Also I don't know about anyone else but I'm pretty sure my windmill doesn't crit 30% of the time. Especially on the more advanced mobs. I thought it was supposed to ignore protection.  

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~Talarch~
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Just IMO. Windmill doesn't knock back all the targets simultaneously (noticed when WM'Ing larger mobs). I think the critical is determined by if the first mob affected by WM is criticaled or not. Not sure about the second question. :x

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IGN: Tehhy
Level: 4XX
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I am sure wm ignores protection.

I wm-crit green snakes which have 30prot. I have only 30% crit.

Well actually, if you have 30% Critical there is no calculations to be done.

It's just 30%.

Windmill is one of those "AoE" attacks (Not to be mixed with "Splash") Meaning it has the ability to hit more than one target. When a skill has the ability to hit more than one target, usually that means it wont take any [Protection critical reduction] into account, it'll stay a solid 30% provided you have 30% or higher.

For example, if you were to Windmill a Brown fox and a Desert Dragon at the same time, Fox has 0% protection, Dragon has 50% protection would would be -100% critical chance

It would still be 30% chance to inflict critical.

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IGN: kittysama
Level: 50/330 Defensive style Combat priestess
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Dang it -.-

 

He gives you the points D:

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IGN: kittysama
Level: 50/330 Defensive style Combat priestess
Guild: Guild hopping atm

I fully understand what OP means, and it's an interesting question...One would like to think that it takes into account the mob as a whole, and if one is affected, all are. Perhaps that's the case since you're more likely to crit when in a mob, since if it didn't work that way, mob wm crit would be a rare sight.

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I suppose it's my fate as a Dark Knight. Soon, I won't even feel any remorse for my actions.

As said already, because Windmill ignores protection when calculating critical chance, it doesn't matter which monster it hits first, as the chance of a critical (on all monsters around you) will always be your critical rate (capped at 30%).

Advanced Magic also ignores protection when calculating critical, so the same rules apply.  It's actually not that confusing. =/

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KartRider: Mystrion
Mabinogi: Mystrion - Ruairi Server



What.

Windmill doesn't hit each target individually - it damages them, sort of like splash. Whether or not the hit is a critical depends on the original target or first monster hit, which is the closest target to the user.

 "It says on the wiki that for certain skills, such as the advanced magics (IS/FB) and splash damage (smash/mag) the crit is calculated by seeing if any mob that is hit gets criticaled. If one of the targets is affected by crit, then everything will be. Is this the same for windmill then?"

Impossible... if that were the case, running into a mob of golems/laghodessas and WMing with even 30% crit would almost always result in a critical hit. Only the first monster hit determines whether or not the attack is critical.

Fluffnugget:

Windmill doesn't hit each target individually - it damages them, sort of like splash. Whether or not the hit is a critical depends on the original target or first monster hit, which is the closest target to the user.

 "It says on the wiki that for certain skills, such as the advanced magics (IS/FB) and splash damage (smash/mag) the crit is calculated by seeing if any mob that is hit gets criticaled. If one of the targets is affected by crit, then everything will be. Is this the same for windmill then?"

Impossible... if that were the case, running into a mob of golems/laghodessas and WMing with even 30% crit would almost always result in a critical hit. Only the first monster hit determines whether or not the attack is critical.

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Windmill critical is calculated completely separate of target protection. Please consider the base case of using Windmill against a single target that has high protection (Field Bosses or the Ghosts of Peaca Dungeon, for example). 30% Critical Hit chance is sufficient for a character to crit as much as they can using Windmill against such targets.  I have no idea where in the wiki you found a statement saying that Advanced Magic critical chance is dependent on the first monster that was hit =S The target-critical dependence applies to Smash/Magnum/Normal attacks only.

If you roll a critical hit for a Windmill, you'll land a critical Windmill's worth of damage on all targets within the area, though, the damage dealt to each target will still be randomized between your character's attack damage range times the Windmill and Critical Hit modifiers.

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