cobiwan:

skybon:

   You know what surprises me about Kitae, he always exaggerates stuff. Well in reality yes, it's supposed to be overwhelming. But he once said how Baol Final would be not finished until the first month, did he? In the end, people finished in the first week. I think us in NA Mabinogi are being underestimated too much. I think I've made this my point long time ago.

Actually I believe its less of the exaggeration and more of the underestimation. But from this video it looks pretty hard, and its on easy.

Sorry for the double post...

and now triple ><

Shininggold:

cobiwanr:

DarkForce999:

According to a post on the Mabinogi korean site there would be "atleast" 5 chapters. Don't quote me.

consider yourself quoted.

I lol'd heartily.

skybon:

cobiwan:

skybon:

   You know what surprises me about Kitae, he always exaggerates stuff. Well in reality yes, it's supposed to be overwhelming. But he once said how Baol Final would be not finished until the first month, did he? In the end, people finished in the first week. I think us in NA Mabinogi are being underestimated too much. I think I've made this my point long time ago.

Actually I believe its less of the exaggeration and more of the underestimation. But from this video it looks pretty hard, and its on easy.

   Haha, This really is making me laugh now how the thing goes once G11 comes. I guess you weren't here back in the Open Beta how we're talking about G3.

Those were the days

Yeah... the memories

When Kiteak was more of a guru than he was now and we were awed by stories of the epicness of future content.

skybon:

cobiwan:

skybon:

   You know what surprises me about Kitae, he always exaggerates stuff. Well in reality yes, it's supposed to be overwhelming. But he once said how Baol Final would be not finished until the first month, did he? In the end, people finished in the first week. I think us in NA Mabinogi are being underestimated too much. I think I've made this my point long time ago.

Actually I believe its less of the exaggeration and more of the underestimation. But from this video it looks pretty hard, and its on easy.

   Haha, This really is making me laugh now how the thing goes once G11 comes. I guess you weren't here back in the Open Beta how we're talking about G3.

Shininggold:

cobiwanr:

DarkForce999:

According to a post on the Mabinogi korean site there would be "atleast" 5 chapters. Don't quote me.

consider yourself quoted.

I lol'd heartily.

nah, the shield i believe is a reward for a G8 quest, or some exploration reward or something like that. something to do with iria.

Note: It was really hard cause we were both warriors/mages, he wasn't all that good at SoG, so we had difficulty killing it., we ended up spamming smash with pets and ourselves, and eventually it died. However, thats not counting the EXTREMELY high health, defense, and protection monsters we had to fight through, as well as the fact that it was EXTREMELY long. also, there is no time to mend before the boss fight, because there is not "boss room", its just another area.

cobiwan:

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skybon:

cobiwan:

skybon:

   You know what surprises me about Kitae, he always exaggerates stuff. Well in reality yes, it's supposed to be overwhelming. But he once said how Baol Final would be not finished until the first month, did he? In the end, people finished in the first week. I think us in NA Mabinogi are being underestimated too much. I think I've made this my point long time ago.

Actually I believe its less of the exaggeration and more of the underestimation. But from this video it looks pretty hard, and its on easy.

   Haha, This really is making me laugh now how the thing goes once G11 comes. I guess you weren't here back in the Open Beta how we're talking about G3.

   I'm talking about daily forum routine during that time. How Kitae exaggerates too much and whatnot. Oh well, whatever. I made my point. Hard thing is easy for us.

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legokillerz:

nah, the shield i believe is a reward for a G8 quest, or some exploration reward or something like that. something to do with iria.

Note: It was really hard cause we were both warriors/mages, he wasn't all that good at SoG, so we had difficulty killing it., we ended up spamming smash with pets and ourselves, and eventually it died. However, thats not counting the EXTREMELY high health, defense, and protection monsters we had to fight through, as well as the fact that it was EXTREMELY long. also, there is no time to mend before the boss fight, because there is not "boss room", its just another area.

Its not called the animal shield its the Vales shield

and you cant find it exploring its bought from  Tuanes for 80k

its for giants only

Its not "animal shield"... its vales shield. You buy it from Taunes.

And sky DX

Your definition of easy is way different from the average player's definition of easy. You run around soloing Cromm with challenges like "no potion". I mean, come on.

Let me make a fairly accurate comparison to things that are already out so everyone can have a better sense of what the difficulty is without overimagining my exaggerations.

Easy Mode: level 1~99

About as easy as Alby~Ciar. Normal monsters have around 100 hp-ish, and has very little defense. Their damage is relatively low. Its for beginners. Bosses are comparable to Giant Spiders or Small Golems.

Intermediate Mode: level 100~299

Think Rabbie or Rundal... Karu Forest... stuff like that. Stuff the average player does for fun. Enemies have moderate stats, with a little bit more defense and strength. But its still a breeze overall. Bosses might be a little troublesome, but its really fine.

Advance Mode: level 300~999

Think Adv pass dungeons. Monsters have high hp and high defense. Thankfully they don't do killer damage so if you have potions or high defense you'll be fine using regular techniques. Without heavy hitting attacks your run might take a while, which is troublesome since many missions tend to come with a time limit.

Hard Mode: Level 1000+

As everyone says, its quite hell. But well worth it because it gives so much exp that theres no point in doing anything else. The enemies are all on steroids. But its only hell because they're so powerful. Their AI doesn't change, so as long as you have the power to kill them all within the time limit there is no real problem.

The biggest thing about these difficulty changes are that enemies are still the same, and their aggro/ai is still the same. And since its on a more open field (except the marble spawn types or the arena types), you can actually just AR them from far away and have no trouble at all. Windmill is highly suggested for half the missions since you're given a time limit and they tend to spawn in large groups and chill in one small area. Ice Spear is also very nice.

The toughest part of these missions is the fact that enemies tend to spawn in different types. Archers, warriors, mages, ghosts, alchemists, lancers. They multi-aggro. Its not a problem if you can kill them off fast, but in my case, since any normal standard attacks will do under 30 damage due to their high defense, I sometimes find myself hiding behind a tree and hoping for the best (windmill windmill windmill windmill).

kitaek27:

Its not "animal shield"... its vales shield. You buy it from Taunes.

And sky DX

Your definition of easy is way different from the average player's definition of easy. You run around soloing Cromm with challenges like "no potion". I mean, come on.

Let me make a fairly accurate comparison to things that are already out so everyone can have a better sense of what the difficulty is without overimagining my exaggerations.

Easy Mode: level 1~99

About as easy as Alby~Ciar. Normal monsters have around 100 hp-ish, and has very little defense. Their damage is relatively low. Its for beginners. Bosses are comparable to Giant Spiders or Small Golems.

Intermediate Mode: level 100~299

Think Rabbie or Rundal... Karu Forest... stuff like that. Stuff the average player does for fun. Enemies have moderate stats, with a little bit more defense and strength. But its still a breeze overall. Bosses might be a little troublesome, but its really fine.

Advance Mode: level 300~999

Think Adv pass dungeons. Monsters have high hp and high defense. Thankfully they don't do killer damage so if you have potions or high defense you'll be fine using regular techniques. Without heavy hitting attacks your run might take a while, which is troublesome since many missions tend to come with a time limit.

Hard Mode: Level 1000+

As everyone says, its quite hell. But well worth it because it gives so much exp that theres no point in doing anything else. The enemies are all on steroids. But its only hell because they're so powerful. Their AI doesn't change, so as long as you have the power to kill them all within the time limit there is no real problem.

The biggest thing about these difficulty changes are that enemies are still the same, and their aggro/ai is still the same. And since its on a more open field (except the marble spawn types or the arena types), you can actually just AR them from far away and have no trouble at all. Windmill is highly suggested for half the missions since you're given a time limit and they tend to spawn in large groups and chill in one small area. Ice Spear is also very nice.

The toughest part of these missions is the fact that enemies tend to spawn in different types. Archers, warriors, mages, ghosts, alchemists, lancers. They multi-aggro. Its not a problem if you can kill them off fast, but in my case, since any normal standard attacks will do under 30 damage due to their high defense, I sometimes find myself hiding behind a tree and hoping for the best (windmill windmill windmill windmill).

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skybon:

cobiwan:

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skybon:

cobiwan:

skybon:

   You know what surprises me about Kitae, he always exaggerates stuff. Well in reality yes, it's supposed to be overwhelming. But he once said how Baol Final would be not finished until the first month, did he? In the end, people finished in the first week. I think us in NA Mabinogi are being underestimated too much. I think I've made this my point long time ago.

Actually I believe its less of the exaggeration and more of the underestimation. But from this video it looks pretty hard, and its on easy.

   Haha, This really is making me laugh now how the thing goes once G11 comes. I guess you weren't here back in the Open Beta how we're talking about G3.

   I'm talking about daily forum routine during that time. How Kitae exaggerates too much and whatnot. Oh well, whatever. I made my point. Hard thing is easy for us.

so Hard thing is easy for NA mabinogi I will make sure to remember who said that when this gets released. 

You have to admit it would be embarrassing if NA mabinogi didn't live up to your expectations and ended up asking for help

or even complained about it being too difficult...

FlashFate:

skybon:

   I'm talking about daily forum routine during that time. How Kitae exaggerates too much and whatnot. Oh well, whatever. I made my point. Hard thing is easy for us.

so Hard thing is easy for NA mabinogi I will make sure to remember who said that when this gets released. 

You have to admit it would be embarrassing if NA mabinogi didn't live up to your expectations and ended up asking for help

or even complained about it being too difficult...

   Haha, I've never complained something too difficult after trying it out by myself. Never will. I try to solve things on my own ways. You guys underestimate us too much just because you people have failed and kept complaining how difficult it is. Puts the shame onto us. Well sorry, we're not the same person who relies too many help like a year ago.

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skybon:

FlashFate:

skybon:

   I'm talking about daily forum routine during that time. How Kitae exaggerates too much and whatnot. Oh well, whatever. I made my point. Hard thing is easy for us.

so Hard thing is easy for NA mabinogi I will make sure to remember who said that when this gets released. 

You have to admit it would be embarrassing if NA mabinogi didn't live up to your expectations and ended up asking for help

or even complained about it being too difficult...

   Haha, I've never complained something too difficult after trying it out by myself. Never will. I try to solve things on my own ways. You guys underestimate us too much just because you people have failed and kept complaining how difficult it is. Puts the shame onto us. Well sorry, we're not the same person who relies too many help like a year ago.

I love how you admit NA mabinogi used to rely on too many help like a year ago. Its just like I said I will be watching to see if this is a

underestimation or a overestimation either way its going to be a fun little competition. 

NA mabi required help alot last year mainly because of how little we knew about mabi.  Now that lots of us know of Non NA sources for knowledge/better battle tactics, we obviously don't need as much help.

Lots of people who play non-Na versions and post on the nexon forums underestimate NA for sure, but considering we're able to have elves and giants that are able to do boss rush in, 3:06 and 3:10 each, I can't see us being the NA that could barely do ciar basic anymore.

What I want to know is if giants can use a shield with that Spear/Sword of God thing.

Based on what I've seen, the average player fairs on Ciar Intermidate level. I know a large number of you can easily run advance dungeons solo or do boss rushes in a very short time, but when I say "difficult", I base my rating based on the average player's comprehension.

Of course, I guess its the wrong thing to do, since every person's idea of difficulty is different, and I should've been doing comparisons with released content to begin with. Theres also factoring the idea that players on the forums are more informed than players who don't visit the forums and might be better overall. I'm not too sure.

I DO exaggerate. It makes things more exciting anyways. But I try to keep it on scope with reality.

Even if my information isn't "needed anymore", when someone asks a question I don't think its wrong to answer. When someone says "that boss looks ridiculously easy" I want to butt in and say what the challenge is, or at least comment on the fact that the video was in easeee modoo.

I haven't done anything special worth recognition, I know that the only thing I have above everyone else here is the fact that I get to try all the features before the normal players here. And that I'm bored and like coming on the forums.

So Sky, when I start blah blah blahing, its probably not for people like you anymore, because I know you're probably far more capable than I am at this point.

oddy231:

legokillerz:

nah, the shield i believe is a reward for a G8 quest, or some exploration reward or something like that. something to do with iria.

Note: It was really hard cause we were both warriors/mages, he wasn't all that good at SoG, so we had difficulty killing it., we ended up spamming smash with pets and ourselves, and eventually it died. However, thats not counting the EXTREMELY high health, defense, and protection monsters we had to fight through, as well as the fact that it was EXTREMELY long. also, there is no time to mend before the boss fight, because there is not "boss room", its just another area.

Its not called the animal shield its the Vales shield

and you cant find it exploring its bought from  Tuanes for 80k

its for giants only

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Vales_Shield

 

sorry. didn't remember exactly what it was called. just remembered that it was something to do with iria, and something to do with "beast". Now, i realize that i had the "beast" part because the first time i saw it, a beast slugger was wearing it......... funny how things like that stick in your head. Anyways, at least i was right that it had something to do with iria. and if its giant only, then why in the pic, is a huma/elf wearing it? cause i think that the guy is way too short 2 be a giant.....