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  •  09-09-2009, 5:04 PM 3237078 in reply to 3237073

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    Heartsyou:
    Zephyri:
    Heartsyou:
    toonayoshi:
    Heartsyou:

    YEA.. I SOOOO TRACED it right? BECAUSE you know, THERE'S soooooo another side of the goddess in THAT picture

    FIGURE OUT THE FACTS BEFORE YOU ACCUSE

     

     

    Dude, the facts are RIGHT THERE.

    Book cover doodles are: 1) Done WITH SUPPLIES YOU HAVE ON HAND  2) DON'T HAVE A FRIGGIN' PHOTOSHOP PROGRAM ATTACHED TO THEM. 

    Denial ain't the only river in Egypt.  Give up while you can.

     

    UHH.. I DO all my HOMEWORK on my LAPTOP

    I do ALL My assignments ON MY LAPTOP

    I do ALL my art ON MY LAPTOP with Photoshop

    SO THAT IS MY SUPPLIES THAT I HAVE ON HAND

    JUSt because I use my LAPTOP for class for taking NOTES

    Doesn't mean MY LAPTOP isnt what I ALWAYS HAVE ON HAND

     

     

    Soooo... Do you copy other people's notes and homework too?

     

    Why would I? when the WHOLE class uses LAPTOPS?

    Just because You can't do it, doesn't mean I Can't

    Just beacuse You need to copy others Doesn't mean I don't have a brain.

     

    Just Because You Use Random Caps where they Dont Belong and Dont spell out You but use U instead Doesnt mean Ur Clever or Smart.


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  •  09-09-2009, 5:05 PM 3237084 in reply to 3237053

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    Lulz.... I'm pretty sure that photoshop image isn't on your book am I right? Yes, it does make a difference. If you want I can quote the first post you know.

    It clearly implies, you're going to cover your book. A book. Not a laptop, not a computer, not a program. But a book. Covering a book and doodling on it. A photo of a covered book. With a cover. Drawn. With images Mabi-Theme.

  •  09-09-2009, 5:06 PM 3237090 in reply to 3237084

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    Serotonin:

    Lulz.... I'm pretty sure that photoshop image isn't on your book am I right? Yes, it does make a difference. If you want I can quote the first post you know.

    It clearly implies, you're going to cover your book. A book. Not a laptop, not a computer, not a program. But a book. Covering a book and doodling on it. A photo of a covered book. With a cover. Drawn. With images Mabi-Theme.

     

    Well, at least with digital art you can print it out and fashion it into a book cover. That's not what bothers me here, lol... It's the fact that she's been called out on her art theft and is still, for some crazy reason, trying to defend herself.


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  •  09-09-2009, 5:08 PM 3237099 in reply to 3237090

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    Zephyri:
    Serotonin:

    Lulz.... I'm pretty sure that photoshop image isn't on your book am I right? Yes, it does make a difference. If you want I can quote the first post you know.

    It clearly implies, you're going to cover your book. A book. Not a laptop, not a computer, not a program. But a book. Covering a book and doodling on it. A photo of a covered book. With a cover. Drawn. With images Mabi-Theme.

     

    Well, at least with digital art you can print it out and fashion it into a book cover. That's not what bothers me here, lol... It's the fact that she's been called out on her art theft and is still, for some crazy reason, trying to defend herself.

     

    because I DID NOT STEAL THE ART

    It's called FAN ART, REFERENCED from the original art

    IF that still mystifies you then I really don't know what else to say

  •  09-09-2009, 5:12 PM 3237107 in reply to 3237077

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    Hearts, you actually have a great command of the digital media. I can see in the hair of your giant that you grasp shading, blending, etc. There is a learning curve to digital art programs, and you have mastered it.

    But you need to be confident in your own line art. That's what you are being attacked over. The line art isnt original. Even if it hadn't been brought out like this, surely the judges, who work at nexon and likely have this images postered around them, would have immediately recognized the poses.

    Take this all as a "aw man, next time i'll do things differently" experience. Your art is good. Be confident. You don't need someone else's style.



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  •  09-09-2009, 5:13 PM 3237111 in reply to 3237077

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    Heartsyou:
    toonayoshi:

    Are you really just that idiotic?  Book cover doodles = DOODLES YOU MAKE IN CLASS WHEN YOU'RE BORED WITH A PENCIL/PEN/MARKER/ETC.

     Not something that's done via technology. 

     

    That's where YOU're wrong

    WHEN PHOTOSHOP and TECHNOLOGY is what you ALWAYS use?

    When Paper isn't even something you bring to class?

    WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU DRAW?

    THE DESK?

     

    What, can't afford a regular pencil and paper?  It cost way less than your PS program or laptop, I assure you.

    Bottom line is that a laptop is not a book.  A book is made out of paper, not electricity and pixels.  If you're going to make the argument that you ONLY USE TECHNOLOGY no matter what and you don't even bother to be original or DRAW YOUR OWN FAN ART, why even bother with this contest?

  •  09-09-2009, 5:14 PM 3237113 in reply to 3175285

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    I hope I managed to move my pictures into this. It seems unlikely.

    Here's my attempt: 

     

  •  09-09-2009, 5:18 PM 3237126 in reply to 3175285

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    This took me a few sleepless nights to do, and even then it may be more amateur than I thought @_@; NEVERTHELESS! I really had fun with this event~ 

     

    FRONT COVER 

     

     

    FULL IMAGE:  http://i27.tinypic.com/2i28kdj.jpg 

     

    BACK COVER

     

     

    FULL IMAGE: http://i28.tinypic.com/33trlv6.jpg 

     

    SPINE

     

     

    FULL IMAGE:  http://i27.tinypic.com/98c388.jpg 

     

     Thank you!


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  •  09-09-2009, 5:20 PM 3237131 in reply to 3237090

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    Zephyri:
    Serotonin:

    Lulz.... I'm pretty sure that photoshop image isn't on your book am I right? Yes, it does make a difference. If you want I can quote the first post you know.

    It clearly implies, you're going to cover your book. A book. Not a laptop, not a computer, not a program. But a book. Covering a book and doodling on it. A photo of a covered book. With a cover. Drawn. With images Mabi-Theme.

     

    Well, at least with digital art you can print it out and fashion it into a book cover. That's not what bothers me here, lol... It's the fact that she's been called out on her art theft and is still, for some crazy reason, trying to defend herself.

  •  09-09-2009, 5:20 PM 3237132 in reply to 3237090

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    Zephyri:

     

    Well, at least with digital art you can print it out and fashion it into a book cover. That's not what bothers me here, lol... It's the fact that she's been called out on her art theft and is still, for some crazy reason, trying to defend herself.

    True you can. But I wouldn't mind see that since the contest had requested that.
    And I was going to make my way into mentioning that whole overlay and "drawing" the art thing also. Since you can see clearly, you're not the only one bothered by it. Lol.

    To Heartsyou-- Think about it. How many people so far has feel the same way as Zephyri? Really. Zephyri pointed out points and it seems there is agreement upon it. You can defend all you want but it won't convince everyone or a good majority at all.

    Zephyri:
    colors cannot be layered down in traditional art and thus cannot be served as a proper base for art

    Another thing that also annoys me. Traditional art can be served proper if you know how to use it and can be layered down. 

  •  09-09-2009, 5:22 PM 3237139 in reply to 3237099

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    Heartsyou:
    Zephyri:
    Serotonin:

    Lulz.... I'm pretty sure that photoshop image isn't on your book am I right? Yes, it does make a difference. If you want I can quote the first post you know.

    It clearly implies, you're going to cover your book. A book. Not a laptop, not a computer, not a program. But a book. Covering a book and doodling on it. A photo of a covered book. With a cover. Drawn. With images Mabi-Theme.

     

    Well, at least with digital art you can print it out and fashion it into a book cover. That's not what bothers me here, lol... It's the fact that she's been called out on her art theft and is still, for some crazy reason, trying to defend herself.

     

    because I DID NOT STEAL THE ART

    It's called FAN ART, REFERENCED from the original art

    IF that still mystifies you then I really don't know what else to say

     

    sigh.

     

    Fan art = a drawing of a character you enjoy.

     

    Referenced = you looked at something to make sure you got patterns, textures, small details, etc. right. Fan art is a standalone piece that will not match up with any other piece that is laid over it because even though it's referenced, it's freehand.

     

    Neither of these will ever line up perfectly on a layover. Ever. EVER. No matter how much you deny it. What you submitted was copyright infringement and can get you, and even the places where you host the images, in big trouble. That's why DA removes them. That's why they're not allowed in competitions. Even if you went over it with your own colors and whatnot, it is still someone else's image, unchanged.


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  •  09-09-2009, 5:23 PM 3237140 in reply to 3237111

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    toonayoshi:
    Heartsyou:
    toonayoshi:

    Are you really just that idiotic?  Book cover doodles = DOODLES YOU MAKE IN CLASS WHEN YOU'RE BORED WITH A PENCIL/PEN/MARKER/ETC.

     Not something that's done via technology. 

     

    That's where YOU're wrong

    WHEN PHOTOSHOP and TECHNOLOGY is what you ALWAYS use?

    When Paper isn't even something you bring to class?

    WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU DRAW?

    THE DESK?

     

    What, can't afford a regular pencil and paper?  It cost way less than your PS program or laptop, I assure you.

    Bottom line is that a laptop is not a book.  A book is made out of paper, not electricity and pixels.  If you're going to make the argument that you ONLY USE TECHNOLOGY no matter what and you don't even bother to be original or DRAW YOUR OWN FAN ART, why even bother with this contest?

    coz I DREW my own fan art REFERENCED off the original picture

    WTH don't you get? IT"s THAT SIMPLE

     All I'm saying is that laptop is what I always have around me, it may seem weird to you, I don't even know why since it's the digital age.  But, a lot of people I know, don't bring pens or paper to school because when the prof is talking, laptops are the fastest way of catching what the profs say, to take notes for future references

    The other time someone tried to accuse me of tracing or stealing or whatever, got owned badly since I was proven my innocenceJUST because some people can't draw it to the exact pose or what not, does not mean I can't.  The personnel involved in the OTHER case, proved me totally innocent, as I drew it ON facebook graffitti application and it only had ONE layer, and you can't import other images into it.  The only difference in this case is that It's Photoshop, so it does not even matter what I say, because that's all you people would ever think about .. .that I imported that picture in and painted over it.

    I don't even care about teh contest, I just wanted to say

    Just because ONE person can't do it, does NOT mean others can't.

  •  09-09-2009, 5:28 PM 3237152 in reply to 3237140

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    coz I DREW my own fan art REFERENCED off the original picture

    WTH don't you get? IT"s THAT SIMPLE

     All I'm saying is that laptop is what I always have around me, it may seem weird to you, I don't even know why since it's the digital age.  But, a lot of people I know, don't bring pens or paper to school because when the prof is talking, laptops are the fastest way of catching what the profs say, to take notes for future references

    The other time someone tried to accuse me of tracing or stealing or whatever, got owned badly since I was proven my innocenceJUST because some people can't draw it to the exact pose or what not, does not mean I can't.  The personnel involved in the OTHER case, proved me totally innocent, as I drew it ON facebook graffitti application and it only had ONE layer, and you can't import other images into it.  The only difference in this case is that It's Photoshop, so it does not even matter what I say, because that's all you people would ever think about .. .that I imported that picture in and painted over it.

    I don't even care about teh contest, I just wanted to say

    Just because ONE person can't do it, does NOT mean others can't.

     

    No, it's not possible. Ask any artist. Novice or professional. You will never be able to replicate any piece down to every single detail exactly. You will never be able to replicate any piece so well that it matches on a layover. It simply is not possible, in all the centuries that art has existed, it has not been possible, and it never ever will be.

     

    Stop trying. You've been called on your paintover. Everyone knows. Deny it all you want, but it's out there now and you cannot hide it. Like I said before, the images don't lie.


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  •  09-09-2009, 5:32 PM 3237167 in reply to 3237139

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    Zephyri:

     


     

    Neither of these will ever line up perfectly on a layover. Ever. EVER. No matter how much you deny it.

    last post cause there's no point anyways, since no one believes me,

    all I'm saying is that It's possible. .I proved it once, so it doesn't matter if you or everyone else in this forum don't believe me

    - refer to my previous last post

     

    Just because You haven't seen anyone able to pull it off, does not mean there won't ever be anyone that can't



  •  09-09-2009, 5:35 PM 3237181 in reply to 3237152

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    Zephyri:

    coz I DREW my own fan art REFERENCED off the original picture

    WTH don't you get? IT"s THAT SIMPLE

     All I'm saying is that laptop is what I always have around me, it may seem weird to you, I don't even know why since it's the digital age.  But, a lot of people I know, don't bring pens or paper to school because when the prof is talking, laptops are the fastest way of catching what the profs say, to take notes for future references

    The other time someone tried to accuse me of tracing or stealing or whatever, got owned badly since I was proven my innocenceJUST because some people can't draw it to the exact pose or what not, does not mean I can't.  The personnel involved in the OTHER case, proved me totally innocent, as I drew it ON facebook graffitti application and it only had ONE layer, and you can't import other images into it.  The only difference in this case is that It's Photoshop, so it does not even matter what I say, because that's all you people would ever think about .. .that I imported that picture in and painted over it.

    I don't even care about teh contest, I just wanted to say

    Just because ONE person can't do it, does NOT mean others can't.

     

    No, it's not possible. Ask any artist. Novice or professional. You will never be able to replicate any piece down to every single detail exactly. You will never be able to replicate any piece so well that it matches on a layover. It simply is not possible, in all the centuries that art has existed, it has not been possible, and it never ever will be.

     

    Stop trying. You've been called on your paintover. Everyone knows. Deny it all you want, but it's out there now and you cannot hide it. Like I said before, the images don't lie.

     

    If you say so.

    As I said, I don't need you or anyone else here to believe me

    I know what I did do and what I did not

    And if what I did not do is what you think I did do, then so be it.

    I've got my justice once, a person doesn't have to win everytime to gain total satisfaction.

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