skyjouzu: I've been getting finishes on desert dragon quite a few times already. Yet though it seems the rarest you have ever given me was a Layer Frilled Dress!... It feels like the corundum I got when i didn't get the kill was rarer and about equal value, or maybe great, than to the total of the drops I got when I'm the one who finished it (been getting manuals / nothing). At least let the finisher get the Dustin or something... Maybe a Raccoon Cub or Marble Brigandine? *winks* . I mean, that exp is not enough! Especially now that I do it with guild, I just put the exp into Equal to Everyone... So yeah... /rant P.S. Mabination killed 2 dragons this week! --- /yay!
I've been getting finishes on desert dragon quite a few times already. Yet though it seems the rarest you have ever given me was a Layer Frilled Dress!... It feels like the corundum I got when i didn't get the kill was rarer and about equal value, or maybe great, than to the total of the drops I got when I'm the one who finished it (been getting manuals / nothing).
At least let the finisher get the Dustin or something... Maybe a Raccoon Cub or Marble Brigandine? *winks* . I mean, that exp is not enough! Especially now that I do it with guild, I just put the exp into Equal to Everyone... So yeah...
/rant
P.S. Mabination killed 2 dragons this week! --- /yay!
Its all on your luck. Its like saying I gacha all the time but never have gotton one thing. I gacha the most and got nothing good but my friend got [insert gacha 3m item here] 2 times in his 10 gachas. Lady luck likes some people but not others :\
Valfor: Sckyth: Are you seriously upset because you're unlucky? You didn't solo the dragon, why should you get something better than a ton of experience? How is that fair to the rest of your server/ party /guild ? She's giving us the idea that she did most of the work, so she should get the best reward. And I agree, it wouldn't be fair to rest of the guild, since we did help too.
Sckyth: Are you seriously upset because you're unlucky? You didn't solo the dragon, why should you get something better than a ton of experience? How is that fair to the rest of your server/ party /guild ?
Are you seriously upset because you're unlucky?
You didn't solo the dragon, why should you get something better than a ton of experience?
How is that fair to the rest of your server/ party /guild ?
She's giving us the idea that she did most of the work, so she should get the best reward.
And I agree, it wouldn't be fair to rest of the guild, since we did help too.
You're a dumbcrack, aren't you? I'm just saying a higher drop rate at least for the finisher. There are even instances where I don't get a drop. I'm not saying to remove the rights of other attackers to obtain such rare items, rather I'm saying just to have the finisher get a better drop, instead of dagger manuals or curaisser manuals or mostly none except gold. I wouldn't be saying this if I get at least once on those dustin items or what not out of all the dragons I've finished. You wouldn't even be able to count it in finger during the dragon event.
Mast: Why're you crying, I always get mongo suits, never get the things I need, but do I make a forum post about it? No, instead I quote in your's :D.
You wouldn't be putting it in a reply if there's no thread about it, no? Of course you need a thread starter to begin the discussion. Of course forum is a way to express your thought, is it not? You gave your five cents, I'm giving my ten cents. I'm just taking the action in, unlike you whatever crackheads are. And also, I don't care on what you guys say and e-thug.
And also. Crying my . Check your own butt.
i think the person get the finish gets the rarer stuff. Its not your fault you trained and made yourself stronger then others.
And yes, it will make a bigger gap between old and new players but when isn't there?
You worked hard, therefore you should be rewarded as so.
AShing:well, think bout it. If pros keep on getting rare drops from dragons, the gap between old players and new players will get bigger and bigger. So I think this is relatively fair.
What he said is right. (Reply to the above poster.)
skyjouzu: You're a dumbcrack, aren't you? I'm just saying a higher drop rate at least for the finisher. There are even instances where I don't get a drop. I'm not saying to remove the rights of other attackers to obtain such rare items, rather I'm saying just to have the finisher get a better drop, instead of dagger manuals or curaisser manuals or mostly none except gold. I wouldn't be saying this if I get at least once on those dustin items or what not out of all the dragons I've finished. You wouldn't even be able to count it in finger during the dragon event.
I still believe everyone should get even drop because of the level differences between players.
People like us (Cashless, or never rebirth in a week, low level peoples. don't do a lot of damage on dragon, we don't have a chance to finish the kill. Giving higher chance of getting better items by finish the dragon would be giving even more advantage to those higher level peoples.
Valfor: AShing:well, think bout it. If pros keep on getting rare drops from dragons, the gap between old players and new players will get bigger and bigger. So I think this is relatively fair. What he said is right. (Reply to the above poster.) skyjouzu: You're a dumbcrack, aren't you? I'm just saying a higher drop rate at least for the finisher. There are even instances where I don't get a drop. I'm not saying to remove the rights of other attackers to obtain such rare items, rather I'm saying just to have the finisher get a better drop, instead of dagger manuals or curaisser manuals or mostly none except gold. I wouldn't be saying this if I get at least once on those dustin items or what not out of all the dragons I've finished. You wouldn't even be able to count it in finger during the dragon event. I still believe everyone should get even drop because of the level differences between players. People like us (Cashless, or never rebirth in a week, low level peoples. don't do a lot of damage on dragon, we don't have a chance to finish the kill. Giving higher chance of getting better items by finish the dragon would be giving even more advantage to those higher level peoples.
Oh is that so? Then let this level 20 total person damage a piece on an enemy and right off the bat get a Raccoon cub enchanted item, which could minimally sell for 10million gold.
What would be the chances of a level 20 total going to a dragon anyways? I know it's very low. duh. common sense. What's also the likeliness that he would sell it for 10million gold? Most likely that level 20 person would sell it for 50k or something. But of course, we're realistically speaking here.
Nonetheless of the reason, like I said, your chances of getting wouldn't be decreased or whatnot, and all I'm saying is increase the chances for the Finisher. Plus, what would be the reason for us rebirthing much? Of course one of them is to get stronger, and able to deal damage on the boss. Not to mention, dragon is mainly based off number of hits, not damage (even still a factor). You just have to work your way up. Why did we spend weekly rebirths and others going every three weeks rebirths and just attaining this lame reward?
In my opinion, you other people are the one who's unfair. You get the chance like the same as the finisher or those who damaged more than you (but less than finisher, in other words, one of the major damager).
Valfor:I still believe everyone should get even drop because of the level differences between players. People like us (Cashless, or never rebirth in a week, low level peoples). don't do a lot of damage on dragon, we don't have a chance to finish the kill. Giving higher chance of getting better items by finish the dragon would be giving even more advantage to those higher level peoples.
People like us (Cashless, or never rebirth in a week, low level peoples). don't do a lot of damage on dragon, we don't have a chance to finish the kill. Giving higher chance of getting better items by finish the dragon would be giving even more advantage to those higher level peoples.
And if that's gonna be your reason, you need to work yourself up. Why? You want to be equal to the other pro people in just the flash of 30 minutes, contributing something against the dragon by just a few. And then in a flash you're rich? Most of the other people who are strong devoted time and like you said, money for this.
Then we'll see you (not exactly you), level 100 something, just like a few hundred k's gold the same as us, who, most of us, tried to earn money the old fashioned way rabbie basic at first then working way on the higher level dungeon with good drops.
Plus, what's wrong with the money differences of other people? In my opinion these new people get a lot of advantages than what other old players tried. One thing for sure are that the prices dropped for certain items, and also, more attainable damage-boosting, and exquisite equipments have been available right away for the new players.
It's also the same as many other games, if you're not stupid enough to play private servers. (in other games) We can say those level 100 people, can attain more money as those level 20 people if they spent the same amount of time of earning money, because the level 100 people, not only they started earlier, but is that they are killing higher level monsters unlike those level 20 people who's trying to earn money as well but on low leveled ones.
leave it sky, let these newbies be whatever they want. we have different views here
these newbies want to be "rich" right away by selling their awesome drops from dragon, where they barely touched it.
i know with sky's guild though, they made a formation and organization of killing dragon and they form party.
so instead of just the finisher, the increased chance in party would be a good method.
but i agree with sky also in her difference points.
one reason is that most like, those pros who attain their rare drops from dragons is either use for their own or sell to other pro players. not newbies.
on the other hand, we will see these newbies who got their rare drops, and most likely sell it to pros and obtain immeasurable amount of money right away, with their unhelpful attacks on the dragon. but "system" says, "hey you! you attacked me with a wooden stick and you'll obtain this Dustin Armor!"
us who played for a long time spent a lot of time already training and trying to earn money, to buy good rare stuff as well. and what is this? newbies earning these good items ? they could use it for their own, they could also sell it for good money. but the point here is that you newbies earn something the same as what pros mostly contributed in.
i think this is what sky means. i mean, you newbies are lucky enough to get drops from dragon right away, but the thing is, you guys are against to those who contributed a lot.
You guys weren't taken out of the chance to be rich, but at least let the party of the finisher, who i would assume be a good damage dealers and the most organized ones (namely sky's mabination party), get good drops still. Of course, the other attackers could get also good drops, but not high as the party finisher's one.
I would also like to mention how the mabination party tries hard to only let their windmillers do the job, because those newbies out there windmill in the wrong spot. and how they try to tell people to go on this side instead of the corner or something.
also, nice guild organizing sky. i went in the second dragon in ruairi after we killed the first in mari.
Are you serious? You get tons of experience, and like everyone else said, get the same drop rate chance.
You are already in favor. You get all the experience, plus what if you get a huge lucky finish?
Be glad that your fellow players get a chance at something nice for helping and proud that you got the finish of a dragon.
You made a thread about it. Don't go off insulting and acting rude just because people disagree with you.
Why are players thes days so freaking selfish?
Selfpride:Are you serious? You get tons of experience, and like everyone else said, get the same drop rate chance.You are already in favor. You get all the experience, plus what if you get a huge lucky finish?Be glad that your fellow players get a chance at something nice for helping and proud that you got the finish of a dragon.You made a thread about it. Don't go off insulting and acting rude just because people disagree with you.Why are players thes days so freaking selfish?
it's only 21k gold. exp is worthless. party organization and teamwork is where she is
at least have the party finisher to get good drops
(my argument)
Selfpride:Be glad that your fellow players get a chance at something nice for helping and proud that you got the finish of a dragon.
she just said that for her to get good drop on something, other people still get the same chance as they used to have even before. she's not taking any rights from you guys or anything.
(jee sky, stop calling my phone just for help in forum wars, it's just a nolife game)
She N Sag:try killing arc lich over 20 times?
lol, try killing ifrit every week ever since g4 came out, and only get one duck boots. gahhh i want razor gauntlets.
ugh, unable to post this on my main forum account due to "LOLOOPS" but this thread is too disgusting to ignore.
Finishing a Dragon is nothing special and is already rewarded greatly. If you didn't depend on your guild to finish the dragon which you obviously do you'd be getting insane amounts of experience both standard and exploration with every kill.
A prize the equivalent of an entire days dungeoning seems worthy in my opinion. Now let's look at the steps to obtain this shall we? Hit the dragon the most times. Not the most damage ,just hit it. Do 1 damage each time, why not. While another could be dealing 300 damage a swing and come out prize-less. Why is this such an outstanding task? All you theoretically need are a pair of daggers and a healthy supply of potions. Not to mention it's almost impossible to ensure a finish without an array of pets handy. Let's deepen the rich/poor IRL gap even more , right?
Crying? Yes, you are. Hell most players even experienced ones don't know how the broken field boss finish system works because the game itself never describes it. Toss your insults around to quell your rage, calling me a crackhead doesn't fix the fact you're butthurt over something so stupid. "omg I'm unlucky ;_______________________;"
Then you have the nerve to spew anti-noob hatred like some kind of Nazielitist. Where do you get off?
In summary; get over yourself finishing field bosses does not make you a god tier player worthy of super items and special privileges. Anyone given the right tools can accomplish such a task example :
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I can keep going if you wish.
P.S. I've never gotten a Dustin / Raccoon cub. :|
Valkyrie~: Selfpride:Are you serious? You get tons of experience, and like everyone else said, get the same drop rate chance.You are already in favor. You get all the experience, plus what if you get a huge lucky finish?Be glad that your fellow players get a chance at something nice for helping and proud that you got the finish of a dragon.You made a thread about it. Don't go off insulting and acting rude just because people disagree with you.Why are players thes days so freaking selfish? it's only 21k gold. exp is worthless. party organization and teamwork is where she isat least have the party finisher to get good drops(my argument)
The finisher DOES get a chance to get good drops.
Just like everyone else.
So you've played longer, spent more money. Good for you.
That doesn't mean you deserve to be treated superior to any other player. You don't deserve special treatment and rewards for getting a finish on a monster that was a server effort.
Who cares if a newbie gets an expensive item? Why does it bother you so freakin' much? They have a right to those items just as much as you or myself.
( I think I've received over 30 Oops!'s... )
